Examples of Two Recent Honor Killings by Hindus in New Delhi

Here are two examples of Hindus involved in Honour Killings. Anyone who says Hindus do not engage in such violence is sadly mistaken. The only difference is that Hindus aren't typically identified by their religion, unlike other religious groups from India. Canadian and other journalists should take note, violence isn't religion specific and Indian culture is responsible for many of the ills they attribute to other groups, such as female foeticide, infanticide, honour killing, dowry, casteism, etc...

BBA student killed by girlfriend’s brother in UP

Muzaffarnagar (UP), May 8
A BBA student was killed allegedly by the brother of his girlfriend with whom he had eloped two months ago in another suspected honour killing case.

The body of Ajit Saini, who was in his early twenties, was found in New Mandi area here yesterday. His throat was found slit and legs cut off, the police said.

His girlfriend Anshu Tomar, also in her early twenties, is missing.

On the basis of a complaint filed by Ajit's family, the girl's father Narendra Tomar and brother Anuj were arrested, Superintendent of Police Rajiv Malhotra said.

During interrogation, Anuj confessed that he had killed Ajit for "tarnishing the family's image," the officer claimed.

According to Anuj, his sister had eloped several times with Ajit despite repeated warnings by the family. The couple had eloped two months back after the girl's family opposed their relationship. After assurances from the family that it would solemnise their marriage, the duo returned home on April 19. — PTI

Pathak’s boyfriend to move HC for quashing of rape FIR

Kumar Rakesh
Tribune News Service

New Delhi, May 8
Pribhanshu Ranjan, the boyfriend of alleged honour-killing victim Nirupama Pathak, is likely to move Ranchi High Court for the quashing of the FIR lodged against him by the Kodarma police on the directions of a local court.

Ranjan’s lawyer Ashish Rai told The Tribune that the court’s order was full of “loopholes” and he would challenge its legal tenability in the high court. “The police had registered a case of murder based on the autopsy report, which is a scientific evidence. In the same case, they have now registered an FIR charging Ranjan with abetment to suicide and rape. It is bizarre,” he said. Kodarma SP G Kranthi Kumar said they were probing the case and it would be premature to make any comment on the merits of both FIRs. Rai said he would not file an anticipatory bail plea and instead wants quashing of the FIR.

Ranjan, a journalist working with a news agency, has found support from woman groups as well apart from his friends and teachers. The friends and teachers of Pathak, also a journalist who worked with a business daily, from IIMC held a candle-light vigil at India Gate today evening, demanding swift justice.

Technorati Tags: Hindu, Honour Killing, Honor Killing, India, Indian, New Delhi, Delhi, Caste

The Problem with Coco's Audience vs. Leno's Audience

Coco's audience doesn't watch the show in its time slot. If you read the comments section in the ongoing Conan vs. Leno saga, you'll notice that a lot of people watch his show on youtube, hulu, dvr, etc... whereas, Leno's audience actually watches the show in his timeslot. The issue for NBC is that its affiliates who broadcast local news need viewers to watch the local News in its timeslot to get advertising dollars. Why would any station want to be an NBC affiliate if NBC can't deliver viewers? Its not about whether Conan is better than Leno, it's who can deliver viewers to the local news broadcast. History shows that when Leno was on the Tonite Show, the affiliates got what they wanted, viewers. Leno was also helped by the fact he had good drama programming to lead into the News and then to his show. People just kept the channel in place and watched all the way through. With Conan, all he has is Leno to lead people into the news, but that's not really having the same effect, which has lead to this whole issue.

Hindu Canadian in Attempted Honour Killing

I'm pointing this story out as more often than not whenever some other Indian group is mentioned the MSM who broke the story always includes the religion of the person. Here its not mentioned and I have to wonder why? From the names of the people involved it seems obvious to me that they are Hindu. Often whenever I read stories from Indian news sites about 'pardesi lok' they also mention the religion of the person unless the person is Hindu. My point is that if you mention the religion of one person, you should mention the religion for every person in your stories.

Here's and excerpt from the story in Canoe.ca,

"An Alliston father who viciously attacked his 14-year-old daughter as she lay sleeping in her bed pleaded guilty to attempted murder and was sentenced to prison yesterday.

Kamal Khanna, 46, a banker who moved to Canada from India in 1982, was sentenced to 52 months in prison on top of time he has already served since his arrest two years ago.

His daughter, Ashna Khanna, awoke to find her father standing over her bed, stabbing and punching her on March 4, 2008. She fled to her sister's room but Khanna continued to punch and stab her in the face, head, chest and abdomen in front of her 10-year-old sister.

BLOODIED

Ashna pretended to lay unconscious until her father finally left to change his bloodied clothes. He later told police he intended to kill her because she was often disrespectful and that he had been under a lot of stress.

Court heard Khanna suffered from schizophrenia and often refused to take his medication, but Justice Michelle Fuerst found "such an illness does not excuse one from criminal responsibility."

In her victim impact statement to the court, the girl's mother, Sangeeta, said she will never forget being at work when her youngest daughter called, screaming "Daddy is killing Ashna!"

Ashna was rushed to Sunnybrook hospital and underwent hours of surgery to her head, lungs and kidneys.

In her victim impact statement to the court, the young girl, now 16, said she has flashbacks of the horror each time she looks in the mirror at the scars covering her body."

Global Warming as Global Fraud

From Melanie Phillips at the Spectator, the only column I read there btw,

"But according to satellite data the earth has cooled -- with 2008 the coldest for ten years; global sea ice levels now equal those seen 29 years ago; sea level rise has slowed down by 20 per cent; of the 13 populations of polar bears in Canada, 11 are stable or increasing in number; in Greenland, said by Gore to be facing an ice Armageddon, outlet glacier flows have returned to the levels of 2000; and last December, 650 prominent climate scientists were recorded by a US Senate Minority Report dissenting from man-made global warming theory, with more and more prominent scientists joining their ranks virtually every week. Russian scientists, for example, have rejected the very idea that carbon dioxide was responsible for global warming, having discovered that, throughout history, CO₂ levels in the air rose 500 to 600 years after the climate warmed up. Therefore, higher concentrations of greenhouse gases were the result, not the cause, of global warming."

I never really believed the hype, and even top dogs at NASA are on board with that assessment,

US Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works reports that James Hansen’s former supervisor, retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist Dr. John S. Theon, former Chief of the Climate Processes Research Programme at NASA who was responsible for all weather and climate research in the agency from1982 to 1994, has said he thinks man-made global warming theory is anti-scientific bunk:

‘I appreciate the opportunity to add my name to those who disagree that global warming is man-made,’ Theon wrote to the Minority Office at the Environment and Public Works Committee on January 15, 2009. ‘I was, in effect, Hansen's supervisor because I had to justify his funding, allocate his resources, and evaluate his results. I did not have the authority to give him his annual performance evaluation... Hansen was never muzzled even though he violated NASA's official agency position on climate forecasting (i.e., we did not know enough to forecast climate change or mankind's effect on it). Hansen thus embarrassed NASA by coming out with his claims of global warming in 1988 in his testimony before Congress...

Theon declared ‘climate models are useless.’ ‘My own belief concerning anthropogenic climate change is that the models do not realistically simulate the climate system because there are many very important sub-grid scale processes that the models either replicate poorly or completely omit,’ Theon explained. ‘Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it. They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy,’ he added.

So as more and more scientists come out about their opposition to the hype over global warming, is anyone going to do an accounting of how much all this has cost taxpayers on initiatives that really aren't for anyone's benefit. What about the cost to consumers, who've had to pay higher prices because of so-called 'green' policies and costs built into products they buy?

I'm all for reducing pollution and for protecting forests from clear cutting, using free market principles or ensuring polluters pay the cost of cleanup for example, but I won't sign on to something based on falsehoods and fabrications.

How A Hindu Teen Turned Into a Terrorist - A Lesson For Parents

This is a lesson for parents on being communicative with your children and to be proactive in addressing their spiritual needs and questions they have as they struggle to make sense of the world. Letting other people stand in for you and take over your responsibility to guide your child on spiritual matters is a recipe for disaster as the Hindu family in this article found out too late.

In Canada, there are many resources such as Sikh youth camps, retreats, seminars, and Gurdwara sponsored activities that you can introduce your child to, so that they might be inculcated with the spirit of Sikhi and come to recognize the beauty in treading on the path of the Sikh Panth.

How a devout Hindu teen became a stranger to his parents on trial in an alleged terror plot

DAKSHANA BASCARAMURTY

From Friday's Globe and Mail

August 8, 2008 at 4:40 AM EDT

TORONTO — A father's curiosity trumped all else on the day he
decided to ransack his 15-year-old son's room. He swept through the
young man's desk, shelf and closet in the family's Scarborough
apartment, silently praying his suspicions wouldn't be confirmed.

The smoking gun he found that day wasn't a girlie magazine or
sandwich bag filled with marijuana, but a copy of the Koran on a CD-ROM.

At the time, the devout Hindu thought he'd been struck with the
worst kind of parental disappointment. But five years later, after
spending $30 a day driving to and from a courthouse in Brampton to
watch his son go through Canada's first terrorism trial, he has endured
a worse fate - the experience of losing his son.

Although he has sat just 10 or so metres away in court from the young man, now 20, a religious gulf separates them.

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In recent interviews with Muslim mentors, including an imam the
young man clandestinely visited, and with his father, who believes his
son was brainwashed, there emerges a picture of a muddled young man
caught in an intense tug of war.

On one side, he seeks to please his strict, sometimes harshly
disciplinarian father and on the other, to follow his own flawed
interpretation of Islam.

His religious guides - at least the ones who aren't his co-accused
in the so-called Toronto 18 - agreed he was ignorant of Islam.

"He's a kid who doesn't know very much, if at all, about the
religion," said Muhammad Robert Heft, who was approached by the young
man at Paradise For Ever, a non-profit centre he runs in Toronto for
recent Muslim converts.

Mr. Heft was even more dismissive of the suggestion that the young
man could be a terrorist. "I think if you ask the real terrorists in
the world, they'd feel insulted, that he was nothing more than a Mickey
Mouse kid who was venting some of his frustrations and talking," he
said.

At an alleged terrorist training camp in December, 2005, the young
man peppered RCMP mole Mubin Shaikh with questions about Islam, but Mr.
Shaikh testified later that they "never ... indicated to me any
reflective thought."

Raised in the Hindu faith in Scarborough, where ethnic grocery
stores stack bags of cassava chips alongside brass statues of Hindu
deity Lord Ganesha, the teenager made a transition to Islam that was
unexpected and tumultuous.

After emigrating from war-torn Sri Lanka in 1994, the family of
deeply devoted Hindus made weekly trips to local Hindu temples, said
the young man's father. The first sign his son was drifting away from
the faith was when the school principal called, telling him his son had
been asking to use the Muslim prayer room in the school.

The father was baffled: Each week his son followed the family to
temple, a place teeming with people kneeling before the statues of
deities and spreading holy ash across their foreheads. The school
principal was surely mistaken, he thought. But then he searched his
son's room. When he found a CD-ROM version of the Koran, he warned the
then-15-year-old to stay away from his Muslim classmates.

"By force they were taking him," the father said in a mix of Tamil
and English, a translator at his side. "At that time itself I would've
alerted police and he would've been saved."

But the young man's younger sister - the only family member the
father said his son acknowledges in court - sympathizes with him.

"I think he was searching for God. He was confused, I guess," she
said. "My parents don't understand. It's his decision ... I just wanted
him to be careful."

The young man's father persuaded the principal to seal off the
prayer room, thinking that once the meeting place disappeared, so would
the conversion process. But that only made his son seek out a new
hangout: the Salaheddin Islamic Centre. It was here that an imam at the
mosque, Aly Hindy, said the young man got to know many of his
co-accused in the Toronto 18, including the alleged ringleader.

Mr. Heft of Paradise For Ever said the young man seemed more
attracted to a group he could vent about his father to, rather than one
that would train him in the religion. "He was surrounding himself with
people who had never read the Koran cover to cover, who don't know
Arabic, who don't know very basic minimal things about Islam."

The father's patience was drained after he found Islamic literature
stored among textbooks in his son's school locker and watched his
religious observance manifest itself in a long, coarse beard.

The quiet young man wandered into Paradise For Ever at 15, seeking
refuge at the organization's emergency shelter and claiming he was
abused at home, Mr. Heft said.

"He was complaining that his parents were beating him up because he
was a Muslim ... that he had to pray in the bathroom." Mr. Heft could
not allow him entrance, since visitors must be at least 16 to stay at
the shelter.

The young man also visited Mr. Hindy at Salaheddin.

Kneading his forehead in his hands, the young man's father admitted
in an interview that he had beat his son, explaining that he believed
it was the only form of discipline left.

At 17, the young man dropped out of school and left his parents'
apartment for three to four weeks without a word, the father said.
Although old enough to stay under Paradise For Ever's roof and take
daily lessons on Islam, he instead fled to a Toronto mosque, where his
family found him. His father pleaded with him to return home, but he
refused.

It was that December that he attended an alleged terrorist training
camp near Washago, Ont. During target practice at the camp, the young
man unflinchingly fired at pictures of Hindu deities, a bold move to
prove to the others he was committed to Islam, Mr. Shaikh, the RCMP
informant, said in court. "[What] I told him was, 'Go home. Go to your
parents,' " he said.

In January, 2006, the family finally coaxed the young man to return
home. In a last-ditch effort to draw his son away from what he saw as a
dangerous brand of spirituality, the father brought Hindu priests,
Christian pastors and other religious leaders to the apartment to
counsel his son. The young man dismissed them all: "Everything you're
saying is a lie."

The turning point came later that year, in early June.

Two weeks after attending another alleged terrorist training camp,
the young man was arrested in the spectacular finale to a long RCMP and
CSIS investigation that rounded up 17 other suspects, 11 of whom still
face charges.

The young man spent months in custody, and his religious conviction
appeared to wane - or so his father thought. After he bailed him out of
jail, it seemed as if a fruitful new father-son relationship was being
born, the father said.

While shopping around for a house a short while after the young man
had returned home, the family stumbled upon one in Markham that seemed
worthy of a serious offer. But after noting that it was right beside a
mosque, the young man vetoed it.

"He ran back to the car and said, 'I don't want to live there any more,' " the father said.

But according to Mr. Hindy, the young man had only hidden his faith.
He secretly visited the Salaheddin mosque every week, peppering the
imam with questions. "Sometimes he'd run away fast because he said, 'I
don't want my father to find out I went to Friday prayer,' " Mr. Hindy
said.

The seeming grace period at home unravelled as the months passed and this summer's trial date neared.

By April of this year, it seemed as if a stranger had moved in. The
young man appeared to be stitching together his own rules for living
from literal translations of the Koran. After reading about how the
Prophet Abraham circumcised himself at the age of eight, the young man
wanted to emulate him.

"He said he wanted to circumcise himself. I said, 'Are you crazy?' "
Mr. Hindy said. "If I open a book in medicine, I can't do surgery."

He told the young man to consult a doctor about the procedure, which
the young man's father said his son was serious about. Eventually, any
form of communication with his son became an ordeal.

"He was almost mad-like. ... He would go into the closet and sit
down like this," he said, closing his eyes, a blank expression setting
in over his face. "I'd say, 'Put on the TV,' and he'd say, 'No,
everything's corrupt on TV.' "

His parents had spent $3,000 on brand-name clothing to win their
son's favour after his release from custody. One day they came home to
find a mountain of shredded fabric and their son beside it, tearing
through shirts and pants with a pair of scissors.

After several months at home, the young man was reduced to a gaunt
version of his former self, declaring that most of the food was not
halal. He even turned away water, his father said.

In that last 1½months in his parents' custody, life was bleak. "He
said, 'I want to kill myself, I want to kill myself,' " his father said.

At his son's preliminary hearing on May 6, the young man tried to
walk out on his own trial. "I want myself out of this," he said.
"...This is not sharia court, that's the problem." He was rearrested
and taken to Maplehurst Correctional Complex in Milton where he has
since remained.

Disturbed by news reports of what happened that day, Mr. Hindy spent
45 minutes with the young man in jail, urging him to return to court,
explaining that Canadian law and Islamic law were not contradictory.
While the young man has remained in custody for three months, he has
been co-operative in court, acknowledging the judge, but ignoring his
father.

His father said that, during clipped phone conversations every two
or three weeks, the young man tells his family that he doesn't call
more often because he doesn't want to burden them with collect-call
fees.

Mr. Hindy said he has become a stand-in parental figure and
religious tutor for the young man, guiding him on the phone every two
or three days. If the young man is acquitted, he plans to move into an
apartment with his sisters, Mr. Hindy said.

Although the young man's father said he understands that his home
may not be the right place for his son, he won't give up on him. His
plan is to send his son, if acquitted, to England to live with his
brother.

"He's an innocent kid," the father said. "He was cheated, he was forced."

Shooting in Sacramento at Bradshaw Road Gurdwara Annual Sports Event

I happened to be at the Gurdwara when all of this happened. The shooting didn't take place anywhere near the Sangat or the Gurdwara. No one was shooting at the Sangat or near the Sangat. There's a field about 70 metres away from the Gurdwara on the other side of a large parking lot area. That's where the shooting took place. Anyone suggesting otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about and is exaggerating the attack.

The annual sports tournie was taking place at the time over in the field. Talking to people after the fact and before the police really arrived in numbers, the one guy they caught got a well-deserved beating. The other guy managed to split and avoid the Singhs who would have given him a taste of their sticks and bats as well... The two shooters knew who they wanted to get and went after them.

This was the result of some conflict that happened somewhere else and they only came here looking for these guys to shoot because they knew they would be here at the event today.

There were a lot of people eating langar at the time all this happened and I was one of them. I didn't see the actual events take place, but talked to a number of people afterwards who were right there at the scene.

You can see a picture of the Escalade below in which the person who died was slumped in the back seat. A couple of Singhs tried to help the guy who got shot by trying to take him to hospital, but he was already gone before they could even get off the property. The police didn't let anyone enter or leave the premises for some time until after they had started taking people's details and information.

The person who died was in the escalade in the picture below.

The police wouldn't let anyone into the Gurdwara property.
or off the Gurdwara property.

Why do People Insist on "Luthan Kitching" (Pulling Someone Else Down by the Legs)

I really wonder what some people get out of bringing other people down. If you want to do something with your life or stay put in life that's your choice, but to point out faults in someone else or some organization doesn't make sense to me when you won't do anything yourself.

Sitting on the sidelines taking pot shots is such a cop-out. I bring this up because of a conversation taking place at The Langar Hall, a site which I find, tends to take pot shots every now and again.

If you want to see the whole thing click here. Below is what I wrote in response to a post,

I don’t have a problem with legitimate criticism of any organization, but it seems to me that claiming women aren’t represented in the Panth as Gurdit claimed, or that Sikh organizations are only successful as a result of the contribution of female members only as Mewa Singh claims, is ridiculous.

Secondly, it seems that you have a problem with SCORE, why not engage them or the Kaur Foundation and find out why they nominated who they did and ask them about SPECIFIC Sikh women who may have been deserving and why they weren’t included?

A lot of times people would rather just sit on the sidelines and throw stones rather than take action. Sikhs should take action and NOT throw stones. That’s my point.

Not once have you or anyone else on this site, ever discussed what they did with regards to engaging an organization like SCORE when making such a post. Why criticize them when you won’t talk to them or at least let the readers know about what you did if anything to engage them?

All this post has done is lead to a couple of people making ridiculously sweeping statements about Sikhs or the Panth and likely misinformed many others about the state of women in Sikh organizations. Maybe where you are located there isn’t much participation of female Sikhs, but where I’m at they play significant roles, from doing Kirtan, sit on and make committee announcements to the Sangat at Gurdwaras, read the Hukamnama, etc…

The ONLY role I haven’t seen performed by a female Sikh is act as head Granthi. I’m not sure however, if any women has stepped forward who wanted to be the Head Granthi though.

If people have issues in particular locales, maybe that’s a function of THEIR community and NOT the Panth. Why don’t you call for people’s experiences where they are instead of generalizing with statements such as, ” Unfortunately, this lack of recognition of women in our community (which occurs on a much broader scale than any one organization) is one major factor fueling atrocities like sex-selective abortion.”

Maybe people are engaging in abortion because they aren’t truly Sikhs in the first place. Maybe there needs to be an education campaign highlighting that Guru Maharaj (Dasam Pitta) issued a Hukamnama saying that anyone killing a girl child should be ostracized by all Sikhs? Maybe people should be educated that committing an abortion is murdering one’s own child regardless of sex and is condemned by Sikh Dharm? Perhaps Sikhs who celebrate non-Sikh cultural events like Lohri should celebrate the birth of boys and girls equally?

It’s not about some empty awards, its about people truly believing in the teachings of the Gurus and understanding that Sikh Dharm preaches the equality of human beings in the eyes Waheguru. God cares about the soul and a person’s actions on Earth, not about gender, as per Sikh beliefs.

Marine Kaur and Singh, why should people who are talented in their field NOT be honoured? Since when was making money against Sikh belief? or Practice? Sikhs who excel in any given field that is in consonance with Sikh Dharm deserve any recognition they get.

If you want to have a big gala to honour people for other activities, why not get together with like minded people and do it? Why complain when someone else got up to do something? Have you took the time to realize that entrepreneurship is valued in our society and so Sikhs who excel in this are being honoured.

I’d like it if Sikhs were honoured based on character and selfless service as well, but not enough to start an organization, but if you start one, I’ll certainly support the idea and effort.

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The Green Shift - Something I Can Support

I was surprised and shocked by the plan proposed by the Liberals. It is bold and I believe does what I believe needs to happen, reduce income taxes while passing on the costs of pollution to those who would use those fuels that add to pollution in Canada. What a nice surprise.

I personally hated the Liberal Party after all the corruption and self-serving personal enrichment brought out in Ad Scam and the HRDC boondoggle, etc... and wanted to support the Conservatives in the next election. However, after seeing the performance of the Conservatives, in what I believe is a blatant attempt at creating ethnic and religious division in Canada through their policy of warming up to specific ethnic and religious communities, I was loathe to support the Conservatives and was wondering what I would do in the next election.

Now I have a viable alternative. I had questioned Stephane Dion, but this plan alleviates my fear that the Liberals would further tax the middle class. This seems on the surface at least to accomplish two goals in one plan - reduce taxes and reduce pollution through behavioural incentives. Great.

Now if only Stephane Dion would commit to effect a plan to counter countries that support Islamic Terrorism with not words but action, including but not limited to Military.
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U.S. State Dept. Report on Human Rights Practices 2007 - India

The following is an excerpt from the report released by the US State Dept. in March of this year, 2008. When the country you call home doesn't provide justice for violence against YOU based on your religion, is it really your country? or is the government and military an occupation force? Is the following how any country calling itself a democracy operates?

Here are a few quotes from the report, linked here.

The government made little progress, however, in holding hundreds of police and security officials accountable for many disappearances committed during the Punjab counterinsurgency and the Delhi anti-Sikh riots of 1984-94, despite the presence of a special investigatory commission.

The NHRC also continued to investigate 2,097 cases of murder and cremation that occurred between 1984 and the early 1990s. In May 2006 it ordered monetary compensation to the next of kin of 45 persons whom the Punjab government admitted were in police custody immediately before they were killed and illegally cremated. The NGO Ensaaf estimated that security forces killed and caused to disappear more than 10,000 Punjabi Sikhs and cremated 6,017 Sikhs in Amritsar in counter insurgency operations during the militancy.

There were no developments in the 2006 case filed by Paramjit Kaur Khalra, the widow of human rights activist Jaswant Singh Khalra, seeking prosecution of former police chief K.P.S. Gill in the abduction, illegal detention, torture, and murder of her husband. At year's end Khalra's case had not been tried in court. According to Ensaaf and other human rights organizations, in 1995 members of the Punjab police operating under Gill's command abducted and killed Khalra for investigating and exposing the disappearances and secret cremations of thousands of Sikhs in Punjab by security forces.

... The Religious Institutions (Prevention of Misuse) Act of 1988 criminalizes the use of any religious site for political purposes or the use of temples to harbor persons accused or convicted of crimes. While specifically designed to deal with Sikh places of worship in Punjab...

...Under the Passports Act of 1967, the government may deny a passport to any applicant who "may or is likely to engage outside India in activities prejudicial to the sovereignty and integrity of India." In the past, the government used this provision to prohibit foreign travel by some government critics, especially those advocating Sikh independence...

...In November a key witness in a 1984 anti-Sikh riots case involving senior Congress leader Jagdish Tytler resurfaced two months after the CBI declared that he was unreachable. In December a Delhi court ordered the CBI to reinvestigate the 1984 riots case and file a fresh report. Tytler was accused of orchestrating the riots by encouraging Congress party workers, police, and mobs in Delhi to kill Sikhs and destroy their houses and businesses in retribution for the assassination of Indira Gandhi...

...NGOs asserted that custodial torture was common in Tamil Nadu, and one human rights lawyer claimed that all police stations in Punjab, Andhra Pradesh, Haryana, and Chandigarh have torture cells to "soften up" the accused prior to court appearance. However, increased reporting of custodial torture may be the result of greater awareness. The AHRC claimed that local police in Kerala continued to use torture and assault as a means of criminal investigation. According to the AHRC, though not verified by other sources, Gujarat interrogation centers function in public view. The suspects allegedly are brought in, kept in illegal detention and tortured as part of questioning...

...The authorities in Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, and Manipur have special powers to search and arrest without a warrant...

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Response to Jodha at Langar Hall re: Xenophobia

I've been having a sparring match with Jodha at Langar Hall on a thread related to Xenophobia. I am putting my response here for all to read. If you want the context you can read the earlier back and forth at this link. I'm interested in the thoughts of Sikhs who read blogs one way or the other. Am I alone on this or are there other Sikhs who feel the same way.

Jodha,
Where to begin?

You wrote,

Your link to the “Investigative Project on Terrorism” shows a man holding a grenade in one hand and a book on Islamic Law in the other. This expert, Stephen Emerson, is a guest commentator on Fox News, the refuge of reality.

What does his being a guest on Fox News have to do with anything? Your comment is just another example of your closed-minded attitude at work. All sorts of people appear on Fox News or any other news station.

You wrote,

So why was CAIR not indicted? As as aside, may I ask, what is your viewpoint on the Israeli/Palestine conflict? Actually I can already guess, but do Palestinians have any grievances? What would you suggest to the Palestinian community? Hopefully AIPAC is recruiting!

Again, you don’t make any sort of cogent argument. Why bring Israel into the conversation? The last refuge for people like yourself is to bring the Jews into the conversation. What have the Jews ever done to the Sikhs? NOTHING. Palestinians themselves in their own mouthpiece the PA daily implicate Arabs as being the ones responsible for the Arab refugees on Jordan’s border. On the day Israel was born it was attacked by Arabs states from all sides in an attempt to destroy Israel and commit genocide of the Jews, and you have the gall to bring the Jews into a conversation that has nothing to do with them. Those people left their villages believing that they would return after the Jews were killed and Israel destroyed.

You wrote,

Clearly John Esposito, the Georgetown professor, is a liar and is out to ‘obfuscate’ concepts such as ‘taqiyya.’ Clearly the Christian websites that you suggested to me that announce “Allah – The Greatest Deceiver of them All” is a reputable source (Did you know that in the Guru Granth Sahib, Guru Nanak praises Allah - this supposed ‘greatest deceiver of them all?)

You seem to think that just because someone is a christian that they are automatically liars. I could have quoted from Islamic sources that explain the concept of Taqiyya or point to the use of deceipt by Muhammad himself, however, the level of your bias astounds. Tell me and maybe explain to the Sikhs who read this site if Al-Islam.org is a site run by Christian evangelists? How about Ahlul Bayt Digital Islamic Library? Is that a Christian organization? Is the USC-MSA (university of s. california muslim students association) a Christian organization?

You wrote,

Clearly I hope these evangelicals soon produce a website about Sikhs so that, Kaptaan, you can quote them as accurate sources on Gurbani and Sikh concepts such as shahadat.

Your facetious and foolish comments just go to show your mentality. Several times you have tried this tactic of painting me with some brush or the other. Why you insist on always comparing Sikhs and Muslims in a similar light I don’t understand. You write about ‘muslimphobia’ amongst Sikhs, all the while wiping away Sikh experience as a legitimate basis for being wary of Muslims due to the first hand knowledge of Jihad, jizya, dhimmi status, and the like, not to mention the way Sikh Gurus and Khalsa warriors themselves became Shaheed. How about the Sahibzadhey? Were they the benefactors of Muslim kindness and compassion? It was a Qazi/ Maulvi himself that read the ISLAMIC sentence of death for them. I make my comments based on the words and actions of Muslims themselves who have quoted the Koran and Islamic sources as guides for the heinous murders of people such as Nick Berg and Theo Van Gogh, and you try to compare jihadi muslims with Sikhs. I am not an apologist for Islam, but your comments surely paint you with that brush.

You wrote,

you seem to claim some sort of knowledge. However your comments on ‘taqiyya’ and now that I know your sources are Christian evangelical websites definitely make me believe that you are ignorant about Islam, not ignorant in general (I don’t even know you), but definitely ignorant on Islam.

So Christians can’t tell the truth about what muslims themselves say about their own religion? I don’t claim special knowledge about Muslims, but perhaps you should use your internet skills and find what muslims themselves say about the subject. Maybe you should examine what translations of muslim sources such Sahi Bukhari (quoted as an authoritative source by muslims) and others say about Islamic practices. The sites I linked to above are also evangelical? Right Jodha?

You wrote,

If you believe that Muslims are evil, maniacal, ruthless boogeymen that are out to destroy the whole world and Sikhs are some sort of cowboys with white turbans that stand for all that is good and great in the world, then that is your world view.

Those are your words not mine. I have never referred to muslims as evil, etc… Why you insist on comparing Sikhs with Muslims again, I do not understand. Do you have some inherent animosity towards Sikhs, that you would continue to bring them into any conversation about the actions and behaviours of Muslims? What exactly are you trying to prove? Sikhs who commit heinous acts DO NOT quote gurbani when doing so. Muslims who have killed people in the most heinous ways find justification in the KORAN and actions of MUHAMMAD. Are those Muslim murderers all liars? Are they Islamophobes?

You wrote,

Rabb Rakha (did you know that the word ‘Rabb’ is actually from Arabic!)

What exactly does that have to do with anything? So what if there are words from Arabic, farsi and other languages incorporated in the Punjabi language, am I to feel some sort of kinship with the people who speak those languages? What’s your point? Did you know that Apple pie originated in Canada? Did you know the word Jarnail comes from the English word for the military rank General? Did you know that arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to god? Do you know that 1+1=2?

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O Mama

I've read a number of posts from various people touting one candidate or another this primary season... In light of last night's results, I saw something from Mark Steyn that makes sense to me.

I really have to wonder why any Sikh who supports the Democrats in the US, would abandon H. Rodham Clinton to support B. Hussein Obama?

BHO just seems too much like a "Johnny Come Lately", for me, and it seems for increasing numbers of Democrats and Americans, who generally don't trust him either.

HRC has supported Sikhs consistently as far as I can tell, along with her husband, while BHO referred to her disparagingly as the "Senator from Punjab". Instead of following the herd perhaps Sikhs should remember that a defining trait of Sikhs generally is to not forget a favour or a friend.

In my opinion, the Clintons have been friends of the Sikh community for years, and I am neither a Republican or a Democrat.

From The Corner,

Moving Barackwards [Mark Steyn]

Byron's analysis of the Clinton/Obama numbers is very sound, but I wonder if in dividing primary season into quarters he doesn't miss a cruder point: For the last three months, Mrs Clinton has been deemed to be in trouble and been urged ever more frantically to pack it in and get the hell out. Yet the more Senator Obama has been the nominee presumptive, the more Democrat voters have refused to warm up to him. In Kentucky, he lost not just the usual groups by the usual margins - white working-class men by a gazillion per cent, etc - but Mrs Clinton also won college graduates and "the young": two groups allegedly especially star-struck by the Obamessiah.

There's no precedent in modern primary history for a candidate growing weaker* the more his nomination becomes inevitable. His boast of finally getting a majority of pledged delegates - or whatever cockamie Democrat arithmetical milestone he reached last night - felt like a steam train running out of coal. He's still moving uphill, just about, but ever slower ...and slower ...and slo..w...er.

If I were a party bigwig, I'd be unnerved by some of these numbers. The media have fallen for Senator Obama, but the louder they trill "I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love, I'm in love with a wonderful guy!", the more Democratic voters refuse to singalong.

By the way, if Hillary had been campaigning the way she's doing now this time last year instead of doing the queenlier-than-thou Barbra Streisand routine, she'd have won.

[UPDATE: *Poorly phrased: I should have said there's no precedent for a candidate getting "so weak". Obviously, presumptive nominees from Mondale to Dole managed to frost up the base as primary season wore on - but not to this degree, and not to the point where 50% of Democrat primary voters in Kentucky tell pollsters they wouldn't vote for Obama in November.]

05/21 07:52 AM

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Sikhs Take Heart

I've been reading with increasing frequency about Sikhs in the news in Canada or in blog posts. Usually the only time as far as I can tell a Sikh is mentioned by religious belief is when there's something negative or a controversial angle to the story.

So when I saw a post on the blog Dust my Broom, and Mai of Road to Khalistan responding, I thought I should make my two cents known.

Here's what I wrote,

Since when did it become illegal or extremist in Canada to legally promote any particular cause? No one is going around killing people wantonly in the streets. There aren't any riots breaking out. No one in the Sikh community supports the people behind the Air India bombing. Some fool kid makes a bogus threat on the internet in a comment section and its the entire Sikh community that should be held accountable? Hold yourself and every other identifiable Canadian group to those standards and we can talk... When the MSM starts identifying every Euro-Canadian's ethnicity and religion when they commit a crime, let me know...

IF you think Sikhs who want an independent Khalistan are extremists, you should note that many of the Sikhs in Canada who believe in promoting an independent Khalistan were born free in Canada. We went to the schools here and learned about human rights and what rights actually exist in a free society. If anything Canada has afforded us the opportunity as Sikhs and Canadians to know what freedom of religion really means.

Using your logic of labeling Canadian Sikhs as extremists or fundamentalist if they want an independent Khalistan created, then any Canadian who supported an indepenedent homeland for Tibetans, Palestinians, Kosovars, East Timorese, Armenians, Georgians, Ukrainians, Irish, Croats, Bosnians, etc... are all extremists and fundamentalists.

There's something called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in this country and Canadian Sikhs will exercise their legal rights to the full. This isn't a popularity contest. In fact the more the MSM and canadian bloggers choose to turn Canadian Sikhs into some sort of bogey the less Sikh Canadians actually care what those detractors think.

Sikhs have fought and died for the Queen. We have every right to live and do what we want legally in Canada which is still under her authority. This is our homeland as much as anyone else's. Sikhs paid for the right to this land with blood and honour in both world wars and as part of the British Army in every country or land where the British Crown chose to tread.

You aren't so much interested in dialogue with Sikhs as you are in lecturing Sikhs about what they should or shouldn't do. No one in the Sikh community is promoting hate against anyone else. Sikhs don't hate Hindus or Muslims or Christians or Jews. No one preaches hate in our religious places. We just have something against anyone who has killed our co-religionists for wanting to practice our religion. We will oppose anyone who would deny us our religious rights, history or traditions. We've survived 3 attempted genocides. Our history is rich with bravery and courage. We are survivors and your words or labels will not deter us from the truth.

Our faith and recognition of our martyrs is non-negotiable. Now why don't you go enjoy your Saturday. I know I will.

Bikramjit Sinh Majithia, Kirandip Sinh Kang and Sukhbir Sinh Badal???

Why would any self-respecting Sikh who loves Guru Granth Sahib Ji ever support such characters as these or be a part of Shiromani Akali Dal when its leadership disrespects the history of the Akali Dal and Sikh religious instruction by Guru Nanak himself (who disavowed idol worship and puja) by worshiping at a Hindu temple for political mileage and votes?

from the Tribune,
The culprits.

In a bid to give secular look to the Youth Akali Dal, its newly appointed patron and president, Bikramjit Singh Majithia and Kirandip Singh Kang, respectively, paid obeisance at the Golden Temple and the Durgiana Temple here today.

They are perhaps the first youth Akali Dal leaders who have visited a Hindu temple to offer thanksgiving to the Almighty over
their elevation.

They were accompanied by a large number of Youth Akali leaders, including Gurpartap Singh Tikka and Inderbir Singh Bolaria, both aspirants for the party ticket for Amritsar South and Dalbir Singh, a former Akali MLA.

The development assumes significance in the wake of the byelection, slated for May 22, even as their visit to the Durgiana Temple, some feel, may help in wooing Hindu votes.

Earlier, Sukhbir Singh Badal while reconstituting the working committee, Political Affairs Committee and other wings of the party had given sufficient representation to Hindus, Muslims and Christians.

Immediately after becoming president of the Shiromani Akali Dal, Sukhbir Singh Badal had made his intentions clear that he wanted to make the party of all Punjabis, irrespective of their caste and creed. He had announced on January 31 that the SAD was not a party of the Sikhs of Punjab, but an organisation of the entire Punjabi community all over the world.

If such a person thinks that SAD will represent Punjabis all over the world, he is sadly mistaken, as most Sikhs outside India are wary of individuals such as him who try to water down Sikh beliefs and go against the Sikh religion by engaging in such anti-Sikh behaviour or policies.



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Happy Baisakhi

I'll be heading to Toronto for the Nagar Kirtan there. I'm looking forward to posting pictures of this year's event similar to what I posted last year. I hope you can all make it there as well.

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Back to Take Down Bruce Allen

I saw a lot of BS on the net and blogs related the Bruce Allen rant on CKNW and felt I had to come up for some air and put out a blog to rebuff the fool. I'll be back from time to time, in the meantime and in between time, check out the updated "sikh blogs by 'k'" from the right panel.

Here's a back and forth I had on the Covenant blog that encapsulates the argument that I make against Bruce Allen and his kind of commentator.

"Kaptaan said...

"play by the rules" is such a load of tripe. Bruce Allen has got it all wrong. Pointing to Sikhs, as an example of 'immigrants' seeking accommodations, etc.. is ridiculous.

Canadians, born and raised in Canada, who have their own religious beliefs ARE playing by the rules, when they demand all the rights guaranteed under the charter. Most Sikhs in BC are BORN in Canada, as Canadians.

Canada is our homeland. Like it or lump it. We don't want accommodation from "you". We are the 'you'. Sikhs aren't "johnny come latelies" to the country. We built the province of BC with blood, sweat and tears (along with our chinese friends). Every small town in BC contains Sikhs and a Sikh community. It's time you and your ilk examined the facts.

Anglos didn't want to integrate/ assimilate Sikhs into society in the early 1900's, so don't be surprised if Sikhs took them at their word and NOW would rather fully express themselves as Sikhs (and Sikh Canadians at that) today.
Thu Sep 27, 07:55:00 AM PDT
truepeers said...

kaptaan says playing by the rules is a load of tripe; then he says Sikhs do play by the rules. He says we are you, but then he says we would rather express ourselves as Sikhs.

It's not so much that I think he's wrong. It's just that his argument is not very coherent. The contradictions are not important and don't have to be resolved. What's important is that We are victimizing Him. And that's the problem with "multiculturalism". It doesn't tell us how we can rule ourselves together, instead of being ruled by some higher righteousness of the kind that kaptaan seems to be struggling to articulate.

What I think kaptaan is really saying is that Sikhs have a right to victim status and so no one else has a right to argue how Sikhs and all other Canadians should behave together. kaptaan says Sikhs and Chinese built BC, but for some reason he thinks "Anglos" (eventhough he writes in English himself - does he really mean whites?) are still in charge and victimizing those who are doing the work. But aren't those in charge the real builders?

One could see Bruce Allen as someone who is actually taking the right of Sikhs to be Canadians seriously. It is the multiculturalist "Anglo" elites who must patronize the Sikhs, because multiculti politics is a politics of patron-client relationships - and having seen how this works from inside the Liberal party, I can tell you there are all kinds of individual Sikhs with ambition to join the "Anglo" elite, pretending to speak for all Sikhs in British Columbia, and pretending to be able to deliver lots of votes.

Maybe Bruce Allen, in his not very intellectually or politically astute way, is saying, wouldn't it be better if you were treated as free individuals, like any other free individuals, and not as a tribe to be manipulated by your "leaders" and their multiculti-speaking "Anglo" friends en masse? The real power in the Liberal party in British Columbia is still overwhelmingly white and English speaking. And they're the ones promoting "multiculturalism". It serves their political interests.
Thu Sep 27, 10:53:00 AM PDT
Kaptaan said...

Let me break it down for you truepeers.

1. When I said the following: ""play by the rules" is such a load of tripe... Most Sikhs in BC are BORN in Canada, as Canadians."

What I mean by this is that to tell Sikhs to "play by the rules" doesn't make sense because Sikhs in BC, by and large, are Canadians so they are already, defacto, playing by the rules. Bruce doesn't realize, that Sikhs didn't come form "somewhere else" so they don't have any other place to go called "home" as Bruce said, because (drum roll please) BC is HOME.

2. When I said the following: "Canada is our homeland. Like it or lump it... It's time you and your ilk examined the facts.

What I meant is that, extending point 1, trying to build an 'us' versus 'them' meaning 'Canadians' versus 'immigrants' doesn't work with Sikhs, because Sikhs are the 'us' because Sikhs are in fact, born in Canada British Columbians. So when I said we are the 'you', it means we ARE BRITISH COLUMBIAN (Canadians).

3. When I wrote the following: "Anglos didn't want to integrate/ assimilate Sikhs into society in the early 1900's, so don't be surprised if Sikhs took them at their word and NOW would rather fully express themselves as Sikhs (and Sikh Canadians at that) today."

What I meant was that as of now, for Sikhs in BC, the prevailing feeling is that not only are we Canadian, but as Canadians, it is OUR prerogative to decide what that means for us, and what it means is that we want to assert our Sikh identity and be SIKH Canadians (British Columbians) as opposed to what Anglos would like us to be today which is just plain Canadian.

4. When you write, "What's important is that We are victimizing Him. And that's the problem with "multiculturalism"... struggling to articulate."

You are mistaken. I don't feel victimized. I am, however, unwilling to [listen to] anyone [lecture me], especially Bruce Allen, tell me what I can and can't do in Canada. OR How I should behave or not behave in this country (as long as that behaviour is lawful).

5. When you write, "What I think kaptaan is really saying is that Sikhs have a right to victim status and so no one else has a right to argue how Sikhs and all other Canadians should behave together... But aren't those in charge the real builders?

NO. That is incorrect. I don't believe Sikhs or anyone else has a right to victim status. Sikhs only want the full protection and freedoms that extend from the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

6. You write, "One could see Bruce Allen as someone who is actually taking the right of Sikhs to be Canadians seriously..."

I suppose someone might see that, however, I see Bruce Allen as someone who just doesn't like the fact that Sikhs and other visible minorities are living large in Canada. I see Bruce Allen as someone who doesn't like the fact that the visage of Canada has changed permanently. I see Bruce Allen as someone who is wondering why it is that Sikhs after having been in Canada for over 100 years in large numbers, don't see the need to adopt the ways of the original Anglo descent Canadians.

7. You write, "Maybe Bruce Allen, in his not very intellectually or politically astute way, is saying, wouldn't it be better if you were treated as free individuals, like any other free individuals, and not as a tribe to be manipulated by your "leaders" and their multiculti-speaking "Anglo" friends en masse?..."

Perhaps I see economies of scale in having many Sikhs come together for a common interest, much in the same way, that many people with strong commonalities and interests have come together in the past. For example, women who advocated for the right to vote and equality.
Thu Sep 27, 07:46:00 PM PDT "

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Work Has Taken Me Away From My Normal Posting Frequency

As with everyone, sometimes "reality" intrudes into the online world, and so it is with me, as I can't post with the frequency that both you and I have become accustomed to at the Singh On The World.

I'll try and get some posts out asap, when my 'work' commitments allow. In the meantime, check out the automatic Google Reader that I've setup for your blog fix, it includes as many Sikh authored blogs as I know of as well as the feed from Sikh Sangat.com.

Write to you soon.

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Did Indians Discover Calculus

No. But that won't stop some people from trying to give India credit for it... Angry has more, but here's an excerpt. Note my comments on Angry's site....

The question is raised about who invented calculus.

Let me answer that question. Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz share that honour. The Kerala School might have come up with the Taylor expansion of trigonometric functions, but that is not the same as calculus. Nor did they contribute their discovery to the body of human knowledge.

No need to rewrite the history books on this one, even if it means evil Westerners retain the credit for something good.

I wrote,

Interesting that Europeans or English are tripping over themselves to give credit for something as profound as the creation/ discovery of Calculus to Malayalam/ Keralese without so much as a whimper.

Usually, if you follow papers from India, the people there are blaming imperialism or colonialism for some discovery or the other being stolen, unrecognized or some other form of malfeasance depressing their greatness.

There will be more of this as the western world's affliction of self-loathing manifests itself in, what hitherto would have been unbelievable, increasingly self-inflicted self-delusions.

Posted by: Kaptaan at August 15, 2007 08:49 AM

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1 More Indictment of Canada's Healthcare

When are people going to learn that Government delivered healthcare is a no win situation. The health care costs are huge and the standard of care poor. What don't people understand when it comes to the dangers and lack of value in government healthcare?

It would be one thing if government healthcare provided the best possible care and treatment while costing taxpayers an 'arm and a leg', but it's quite another when the healthcare is substandard and it can cost patients, literally (see all the c.difficile or flesh eating disease cases), and taxpayers, figuratively, an 'arm and a leg'.

CTV reports,

According to the report by the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI), the chances of patients receiving the wrong medication or wrong dose was about 1 in 10 in 2005.

The chances of an adult contracting an infection while in an acute care hospital are about the same: 1 in 10, while the chances of a child contracting an infection while in hospital are about 1 in 12.

Incidents in which a foreign object is left behind in a surgical cavity are less common, affecting about 1 in 3,000 patients in Canadian hospitals (outside of Quebec and parts of Manitoba). Yet that still adds up to more than 200 incidents per year between 2003-2004 and 2005-2006.

Previous studies show that obese patients are at higher risk of having a foreign object left behind after surgery, though the reasons aren't clear.

Other higher risk groups include: patients who undergo emergency operations, those who have an unexpected change in operation or those who have a change in nursing or surgical staff during a procedure.

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Ujjal Dosanjh Communist

I've been doing a bit of reading lately and came across the following from "The Canadian Association For Free Expression."

Now I don't know this organization at all, and am not sure what they have to say about anything else. I did find this interesting though about, Ujjal "Ujjie" Dosanjh, member of parliament Canada, which they wrote about back in the year 2000. [From reading this article the conclusion that I draw is that Ujjie is a communist, or at a minimum a communist sympathizer. Which would explain quite a bit about him, his politics, and his antics in the media.]

"Ujjal Dosanjh: Architect of Repression

In a recent issue of The Free Speech Monitor (November, 1999), we exposed a document from the B.C. Human Rights Commission entitled A Call to Action: Combatting Hate in British Columbia. Some of the major repressive measures in this anti-racist blueprint for repression, including seizure of computer hard drives, making possession of "hate" for distribution a criminal offence, and adding sexual orientation to the list of privileged groups, all originated with one man, B.C.'s new premier Ujjal Dosanjh, the former attorney-general. The document explains: "In June, 1998, the B.C. Attorney General wrote to the Minister of Justice recommending changes to the Criminal Code to promote the fight against hate. The Federal/Provincial/Territorial Working Group on Diversity, Equality and Justice supported these recommendations in principle. The recommendations were then forwarded to the Federal/Provincial/Territorial Ministers responsible for Justice in October, 1998 where they received support. " [See Free Speech Monitor, December, 1998.]

It's worth looking a little more closely into the past affiliations of the Punjabi-born Dosanjh who brings such a narrow view of freedom of speech to his high office. In an article headlined "From Communist to Premier" The Report Newsmagazine (March 13, 2000) reported: "In an interview last month with CBC radio reporter Chris Brown, [Dosanjh] admitted to having, in Mr. Brown's words, 'dabbled with communism' as a teenager in England. Mr. Dosanjh's extremism apparently continued after he immigrated to Canada in 1968. According to a Vancouver Sun profile [February 21, 2000], Mr. Dosanjh 'began turning up at demonstrations that attracted members of the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist), a small but noisy group that allied itself first with the policies of Mao Tse-tung, then Albanian leader Enver Hoxha. As recently as 1984, Mr. Dosanjh's political opponents in the Sikh community considered him 'a committed Marxist', according to a letter sent at the time to media outlets. ... The new premier's early far-left bent is attributed to the influence of his maternal grandfather. One Sun story identified the man as a communist and another reported that he 'fought to liberate Sikh temples from British colonial rule -- and spent almost 10 years in British jails in retribution.' (Mr. Dosanjh said during the convention that his grandfather was sentenced to '20 years in jail.') A report in the Globe and Mail [February 19, 2000] described his grandfather as 'a Sikh preacher who tempered his teachings with Karl Marx and Mao Tse-tung.' B.C.'s new premier clearly considered his grandfather a hero. 'He made politics seem like the most noble of callings,' he told the convention, 'and I still believe that today.'"

While Dosanjh denies being a card carrying member of the CPC (M-L), his attachment to that group, then known as the Maoists, is very worrisome. These violent, hard-core communists, cheered on the Vietcong during the Vietnam war. The used heavy sticks to beat opponents at demonstrations. Their turgid paper People's Canada Daily News was almost impenetrable with its poorly translated Chinese speeches, full of communist rhetoric and phrases like "running dog of U.S. imperialism," "comprador," "Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Tse-tung-thought" and "splittist". Maoism was a violent, repressive system that caused the deaths by starvation and execution of millions of Chinese. Dissidents were executed or carted off for "re-education" in the countryside. This, then, was the system with which Dosanjh and his grandfather "dabbled". Perhaps, Dosanjh's fondness for repression is not at all surprising, given his never repudiated youthful affiliations."

What is particularly interesting is the last sentence. Ujjie has never repudiated his affiliations with Marxist-Leninist Communists. My question is how anyone with those kind of affiliations, a self-described lack of religious base, and a family history of communist party activism, can ever be described as a Sikh?

Doesn't it stand to reason that someone with those affiliations may have a bias against people who have a strong and firm religious foundation? Isn't the Communist Party of China an avowedly atheist organization? Doesn't the CP of India (CPI) look to the CP of China (CPC) for inspiration? Isn't it feasibly that the elimination of religion is a goal of these people? Wouldn't they find it in their interest to de-legitimize or otherwise cause people who have a strong and visible religious affiliation to be somehow discredited? Don't Sikhs stand out? Are Sikhs visible?

Is Ujjie ANTI-SIKH? That is the question, where does Ujjal stand on this point? I don't recall him ever speaking out against state sponsored torture or extra-judicial killings of Sikhs in Punjab and India, but I do recall him speaking out against Sikhs advocating for freedom from such abuse via their own homeland.

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The UK has Got IT Bad

What is it with the UK? Kathy Shaidle points to a news item about Muslim men targeting white girls for sex........

who are as young as 12!

Why can't people honestly address the situation and condemn the perpetrators directly? Aren't muslims themselves talking about these kinds of people? It's the reputation of all Muslims that gets impacted, whether they are Sunni [Barelvi, Deobandi, Salafi, Wahabbi], Shia [seven, twelver, Ismaili], or Quadiani. I'd be interested to know if the UK even keeps crime stats breaking it down by community to that degree?

Having spoken to people in the UK, it seems they all know good, decent Muslim people who are their friends, and I've met some Muslims as well who seem decent enough. But do those people with close friendships with Muslims ever bother to even ask them what 'kind' of Muslim they are, and their thoughts on those Muslims bent on subjugating the world?

I can well imagine some Muslims say it is a part of their religion to harass these girls, such as those Muslims who believe in Jihad, Kafirs as sub-human, and oppression of non-Muslims. Them engaging in what is ACTUAL anti-social, sub-human behaviour is not a surprise.

But what about the rest of the Muslims out there? Why doesn't anyone ever hear of them condemning the perverts in their midst? Are they afraid of them or just too ignorant or oblivious to care? Do they in fact sympathize with those people? Or is it that the newspapers don't put those protests into print?